"So if we went with familiar imagery then, would you say you see yourself as perverse -- being disruptive? Upsetting expectations? A devil scouring the details like the Accuser?
"Or more a light of the divine? A servant of peace and understanding?"
The face across from him nodded. "Yes."
"Yes?"
Nod.
"So... what? You see yourself as playing both sides?"
The face shook. "No."
"You just said--"
"Same side."
Now it seemed certain this was some kind of mockery or joke but the serene, sincere expression lingered.
"So you're taking a side?"
Shake. "No."